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Technology in 30 years?
« Thread Started on Apr 24, 2002, 8:12am »

Well if you didn't know the OVA was made 15 years ago, and their perceptions of futuristc technology is now somewhat outdated. The tv series, though being nearly 40 years in the future seemed much closer to todays technology than anything from the future.

For example, vehicles and combustible engines. We are facing a fossil fuel problem today, let alone in thirty years. With the big push for electrical-solar or hybrid and hydrogen based vehicles, is there any doubt that they will be in large production in thirty years? Especially since it's hoped they'll make a huge impact in the next 10?

Another example, computers. We have laptop computers now that are 20+ times more powerful than any desktop from 15 years ago and their only an inche thick. Who knows what computer systems will be like in the next 10 years, quantum computers anyone?

So here's my question, how do we go around portraying the future technologies in thirty years? Other than the boomers, and that we remain true to BGC?

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« Reply #1 on May 1, 2002, 3:48am »

I would say remain to the original BGC technology as much as possible. It would really depend on what type of 'feeling' your looking for, if your looking for futuristic/advanced technologies and way of life, then go all the way with all the cool techy stuff we all dream we had. But if you want the genuine BGC look and feel then stick to the series' technology basis.
Or maybe try a hybrid, use as much of the BGC designs/concepts as possible but replace/upgrade whatever needs be to make it more 'future-like' say replacing lousy petrol driven systems with clean electric ones, making the computers/personal electronics smaller, where ever it counts.

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Re: Technology in 30 years?
« Reply #2 on May 1, 2002, 8:15pm »

I think that Boomer42's idea of a hybrid would be the best choice. Certain things we are assured of; such as computers being much smaller and more powerful. But other things aren't so clear; like will the combustible engine really be gone. If you hold true to the BGC setup and big corporations control what happens then why would the car companies want to change what they already do. Even today they don't want to and that is with the possibility of a oil/gas crisis in the future.

Since your really after a feeling of a darker future don't you just want to give people the sense that it is the future, but still retain familiar things? To make it seem darker you don't want it to look like it got too much better for people so the futuristic stuff can't be too spectacular or you loose the feeling.

The truth is no matter what you are going to get it wrong. Either you’ll over shoot or under shoot. So I think the goal should be for the technology to convey whatever feeling you want to get from the background. The feeling I got from BGC and Blade Runner was that the future isn't necessarily good. While in 2001 you get a feeling that mankind did pretty well. They all got the technology wrong, but the proper feeling was conveyed.

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« Reply #3 on May 1, 2002, 10:13pm »

Yes, dark is good. However, the only piece of technology that makes the series "dark" is the boomers. And I don't belive their designs will change, as it is the technology that doesn't exist now.

What does make the series dark is the environment, huge towers, crumbling apartments, dark alleys filled with homeless, scrapped cars, raw sewage, cybernetics, the shadow cast by Genom Tower....

I mean the more "common" technologies, phones, computers, cars, ect. It's kinda hard to define whether a car or motorcycle has a combustible engine, unless seen filled with gasoline, or said out loud. The only obvious method of showing wether a car is combustible is exhaust. No tail pipe, then it has to be assumed something else is running it. The other one I'm thinking of is, will cars have wheels?

There are cars already built today that can fly, and will reach mass market in the next 10-20 years. Considering how fast the moto industry moves, adding another 10 years to that, who knows where it maybe. And this is Japan, among the first nations to implement a maglev train system. Seven years after Tokyo is destroyed, why wouldn't Genom want to push for a meglev road structure? They could once again take a monoply of a new technology. I'm not saying all the cars of 2032 will have to be new, that's just ridiculous. But it would be neat to see the new developments here and there.

And computers. Yes they will be smaller, but what will they look like? Would we still have keyboards and mice? Again there are advances on direct mental thought control. It looks kinda odd, it's a headband of sorts with a small pertrusion(sp?) in the center forehead. What about monitors? We already have 1 inch digital flatscreens, even touch sensitive. How will monitors advance over the next 30 years? Will they even exist, could we see things such as holographic or mental projection (VR) take there place?

It's not so much that I want the technology to be dark. But that it portrays an accurate possibility of technology in 30 years. Sure it can be overshot, in fact I bet it'll be undershot, technology is moving much too quickly for an accurate prediction of it's future. It would be nice to speak with conceptionalists of say IBM or Apple, the Big Three, or even Honda or Kawasaki for the future of motorcycles.

I think that having the series visually new will compliment the series quite well to it's new retelling. The story may share elements that the fans will know of before hand, but visually the movie will allow all those common elements a new life of it's own.

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Re: Technology in 30 years?
« Reply #4 on May 2, 2002, 2:21am »

Your ideas on the technologies do seem acturate in the sense of how far techology will go in the next 10-30 years, but you are creating your own world here, so it doesn't have to really have any blueprint of what technology would be BGC technology will be BGC technology.
I think that the computers should still have the basic, monitor, keyboard/mouse interface though. Call me old fasioned but I really don't see myself plugging my head into a port and waving my arms about and call it being on the computer. I don't oppose the idea, I think it would be great, but I still think I need the hardware to really feel as if Im using a computer. I think the same might be for the movies, unless you want it specially as a feature for such advanced computers then you could just improve on the ones now, with holograms, pressure pads and light sensors instead of monitors, keyboards, and mouses. Even in BGC 2040 Nene still uses the monitor, keyboard, mouse set up in the ADP towers, and they are the AdvancedPolice, so one would think they would have neural-networks etc, but they don't. Still keeping a solid object as a computer would be better than chips and light beams inside our bodys, plus suchs things would make the everyday person somewhat a Boomer as well.
As for vehicles, it does seem that petrol engines will be around for a very long time even when there is no oxygen left for the fire to burn in... But maybe a mixture of the vehicles, still have the old types but have the new better types as well, showing the diversity between the classes of people. The maglev system does seem a good idea as well, but maybe limit it to a public transport system, instead of it being the mainstream way to get around. As for flying vehicles well I guess its upto you, like the petrol/electric systems, not everyone will have them, so maybe have both or limit them to a certain class or organization. (Like the Firebees for the ADPolice. (They are so cool

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Re: Technology in 30 years?
« Reply #5 on May 2, 2002, 10:52am »

I agree. I was thinking about the maglev infrastructure last night, and the idea of public transportation seemed a natural extension. Unfortunaltey most of todays use is designed with trains in mind. I think it would be interesting to see cars, like Star Wars speeders, hover along a few inches of the ground, using maglev tech embedded into asphalt or tunnels.

Classes. That is one major point of the series, whether it's the homeless on the streets, Sylia and her lingerie shop, Sho and mother in their crumbling apartment trying to save money to reach a country home where the air is clean. I think the idea of having the vehicles provide a means of showing class is a great idea. Flying cars, whether maglev, rotary, or ducted fans, could represent the upper classes, police or military, and even corporate personel(like Mason). Wheeled cars would be used for common transportation, considering that some area's simply won't be reached with the newer technology, such as compacted urban area's, and cost.

I think that the traditional terminal computer system, possibly with advanced keyboard/mice, such as the touchpad, ect would be suitable for the personal computer. Much like the stations in the ADP, ect. I like your idea of the supercomputer though, the machines used by Mason and Sylia could be the more advanced systems I mentioned earlier, using the mental control(as they were) and holographic projection would add to the feeling that this is the future. As such these advanced systems would be used for specific purposes, there prices alone would make it unsuitable for home use, unless your among the upperclass.

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Re: Technology in 30 years?
« Reply #6 on Nov 14, 2007, 10:35am »

Has anyone mentioned the fact that in a lesser known OVA 1 shot Labled MADOX-01 Metal Skin Panic? it shows that the technology was avlib even back then but the cost is so high it takes time for it to come out. now take into considertion this was also released back in 199* it had the discussion of the exo-frame and hard points and the weapons that could be used. Plus with the way robotics are coming along, yea we're definitly at a crossroads now. Where we go next though is the 2040 Dollar Question.

With regards to the Maglev techlogoy I think it's a good idea but what about the gravitional field around the planet with enough maglev transportaion created would it not effect the earth's gravitional field in some sense?

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